Daniel 8 to Ezekiel 38 and Beyond

March, 2025

Shalom everyone,

It has been a year and a half since I last wrote a letter like this.  Much has happened in the days since October 7, 2023.  In that last letter the focus was upon the possible imminent invasion by Magog into Israel as per the Ezekiel 38 and 39 prophecies.  At that time, it seemed very plausible with the events happening against Israel and with the information we had.  In support of that plausibility, there were clues from scriptures that indicated Magog would invade in the fall of 2023. 

Those clues and the potential dates are part of the timeline I developed in 2022 (and referenced in that letter), along with a second set of clues that indicate an alternative plausible time when Magog would invade Israel.  I call these clues Speculation One (calculated for Fall of 2027) and Speculation Two (calculated for Fall of 2023).

Since we are now well beyond the Fall of 2023 and have not seen any form of an invasion by Magog and their cohorts, Speculation Two is no longer a consideration regarding Magog’s invasion.  But it can be considered in another way because the clues given for the Fall of 2023 have verified that date and its subsequent events as the trigger for all the future events that are about to come upon this world. 

From that day in October 7, 2023, the many people who study and are aware of end time prophecies have been holding their collective breath in anticipation of the Ezekiel 38 and 39 invasion of Israel by Magog.  Many view this prophecy as the kick-start of the end time prophecies.  But please remember, the following information is a perspective that may be very plausible, but we won’t know for sure until these prophecies actually manifest. 

There is a prophecy to unfold before the Ezekiel 38 and 39 prophecy.

However, there is another prophecy that must manifest even before the Ezekiel 38 and 39 prophecies.  Only with recent current events has that prophecy become clear enough to understand.  Once again, the seals are being removed from prophecy and due to world events we are now able to see what had been shut.  Dr. C.I. Schofield is quoted as saying “The book is so written that as the actual time of these events approaches, the current events will unlock the meaning of the book.”

That prophecy which has been recently unlocked involves Daniel 8 with the ram with two high horns and a he-goat with one exceedingly large horn. 

For those who are familiar with the chapter it is easy to see the prerequisites that will bring about this prophecy.  Historically, these events occurred around 334 BCE when Alexander the Great – the king of Greece (the notable horn) – conquered the Medes and Persians (ram with two high horns).  We know that he died soon after his conquest (notable horn broken) and that his four generals divided his kingdom into four parts (four other horns). From one of those four horns a little horn would rise up.  It was about two centuries later that the little horn appeared as Antiochus Epiphanes IV, made evident when he actually shut down the sacrifices and desecrated the sanctuary in 167 BCE, just as Daniel 8 specified.

But we also know that Bible events do repeat themselves, especially prophetic events. So we know that this type of event will happen again.  As a quick side note:  these events repeat, so that those of us who are living in the end times can know what is about to transpire, which enables us to prepare. 

How would the Daniel 8 prophecy play out in end time events? 

With current world news reports coming out of Israel, Europe, the U.S., Iran and Russia, we can take those prerequisites from Daniel 8 and see that a foundation is being laid for something to happen soon.

Much of it has been triggered by the actions and words from the new U.S. president, Donald Trump.  Since he took office, he has been moving with lightning speed to make changes on the world scene, much like Alexander the Great did. 

Towards Europe, he has spoken his intentions to cut back on military spending and threatening to leave NATO if the other member nations don’t fulfill their financial commitments.  This has jolted Europe awake at the possibility of being left defenseless, especially if Russia makes annexation moves westward beyond Ukraine towards Europe.  Right now, Europe is on a spending spree to become independently armed and self-sufficient in its own defense.  As well, there are trade wars with tariffs that act as additional elements to jolt decisions by European leaders to become more independent from the United States.

Towards Iran, President Trump has focused his attention on their nuclear program.  There is much talk about developing a new nuclear deal though President Trump has added fuel to the fire by saying there are two ways to handle Iran: a deal or ‘militarily’.  To this end, Russia and China have been showing great support for Iran and taking a stand against the U.S.  The nuclear deal seems very uncertain.

How do these world news events connect with Daniel 8? 

Here is the answer…what we are seeing with Europe and Iran are the foundational elements of an Alexander the Great style move against Iran.  This will be accomplished through the NATO alliance that is predominantly made up of European countries plus Canada and the U.S. Right now, U.S. and European officials are working independently of each other to bring Iran into this new nuclear deal.  But President Trump could take the lead and force the deal through NATO military means.  Iran is the ram with two high horns (Iran and its proxies), NATO is the he-goat and President Trump is the notable horn. 

Since Daniel 8 records that the he-goat conquers the ram, we will see that as the outcome when NATO goes against Iran.  But of interest is that NATO will also need to go after Iran’s proxies of HAMAS, Hezbollah, the Houthis in Yemen and the jihadists in Judea/Samaria.  So they will have a presence in that part of the Middle East as well.  Currently (at the time of this writing), the U.S. has initiated air strikes on Houthis strongholds in Yemen.  The U.K. provided fueling support.

This sets the stage for the next set of prophecies that involve Ezekiel’s accounts of judgment against Israel’s immediate neighbours; Ammon, Moab, Edom (Esau), Philistia (Gaza), Tyre and Egypt.  These prophecies are recorded in Ezekiel 21, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32 and 35 (plus in other scriptures as well*).  These very same neighbours are currently hosting Iranian proxies.  Will the Alexander the Great style of military action by NATO be the force that brings about the judgment against these nations that Ezekiel wrote about?  It could very well be the case.

*as an interesting quick side note: the prophecy in Zephaniah 2 is about the end time outcome of Gaza (Philistia).  The crux is that Gaza will be uninhabited and returned to Judah.  Recently, President Trump has proposed the idea of relocating the Gazan people to other countries such a Syria, Africa, Egypt, Jordan.  This is an attention getting action on President Trump’s part that could very well lead to the sooner than later manifestation of this prophecy. In conjunction with this Egypt has increased its military presence in the Sinai in an obvious treaty violation with Israel.  That treaty was implemented in 1979 as part of the Yom Kippur War cease fire – a significant event in the end time’s timeline (see article “70 Weeks/Shavuots Prophecy of Daniel 9 – Overview Explanation”).

Moving along, we see that shortly after the downfall of Iran and its proxies, the notable horn will be broken.  Could this mean the physical death of President Trump or will it mean his political death?  Either way, the outcome will fulfill the prophecy as long as the horn is ‘broken’.  Once that happens, the NATO alliance will divide into four parts.  Quite possibly into: a Mediterranean region; a central European region; a northern European region and a North American region.

Daniel 8 records that sometime after the division of NATO into four parts, the little horn will come out of one of the four horns.  The way it is worded seems to make this happen shortly after the division of the alliance.  But Daniel’s account is focused on the bigger picture without getting into the finer details that will be happening between the divisions to the events of the little horn.

And what are these finer details? 

This is where the prophecies in Ezekiel come in, culminating with Ezekiel 38 and 39.  The finer details involve the judgments of the neighbouring nations of Israel, followed by the destruction of the invading Magog.  Ezekiel 39:9 states that the result of that destruction will be seven years of relative peace for Israel as they don’t have to use their own resources.  That period of seven years will also give Europe (NATO) time to rebuild which becomes the platform that will enable the little horn to rise up and initially dominate that region before moving onward as it waxes great.  When that happens, many other prophecies begin to manifest.

To sum this letter as plainly as possible; 

Europe is arming itself for independence and President Trump is going after Iran and its proxies. These events could be the trigger for Daniel 8 to manifest when President Trump’s words turn into action as he utilizes the alliance of NATO to initiate a possible military event against Iran.  This also means that the judgment prophecies of Ezekiel 21, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32 and 35 will also manifest as NATO goes after Iran’s proxies in Israel’s neighbouring nations of Lebanon, parts of Syria, the western Jordanian kingdom, Gaza and into the Sinai (Egypt).  It may well take some time for all of this to manifest but within that time the notable horn will be broken and four other horns will rise up in its place.  NATO will become a much different entity as it recreates itself. 

Then in the midst of the new NATO (it may be called something different), a number of its leaders (Gog) may feel it is necessary to build up a campaign against Israel (through the many hooks that YHVH is placing in the waters to catch Gog’s attention).  These hooks involve the world’s need to establish peace and security in the Middle East and will attempt to override Israel’s sovereignty.  Once the members of Gog have the hooks placed in their jaws, the invasion by Magog will occur resulting in the destruction of Magog (the new NATO out of Europe) and its cohorts of Meshach, Tubal, Persia (newly conquered), Gomer, Togarmah, Libya and Ethiopia.  These cohorts are the nations that are on the periphery of the neighbour nations of Israel that had earlier been judged as per Ezekiel’s prophecies.

Clearly, this shows that YHVH will be destroying a vast army.  Yet, in the King James Version of Ezekiel 39:2 it states “and I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee, and will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will bring thee upon the mountains of Israel:” The destruction won’t be a total destruction because a sixth part of this new NATO will not be destroyed.  From the opposite perspective this means that five sixths will be destroyed which will truly be devastating for Europe.  This will bring about a huge political and economic power vacuum in that region that will require immediate attention.

So, for the next seven years, while Israel is utilizing the spoils of that destruction of Magog (Ezekiel 39:9), Europe is rebuilding.  This is setting the stage for yet another prophecy to take place – the prophecies about the little horn.

In a nutshell, Daniel 7 explains the rising up of the little horn will be in the midst of 10 other horns that are part of the new NATO (that is of itself divided into four horns).  It is interesting to note that Europe has ten monarchies that will most likely step up to the plate and attempt to govern Europe immediately after Magog’s destruction.  Yet their efforts will be like the ten toes of iron mixed with clay in Daniel 2.  That is when the little horn will see an opportunity and make his move of dominance.  He rises up from one of the four divisions of the new NATO (which is the Daniel 7 dreadful beast) and uproots three of the ten horns (kings).  This gives him controlling power over the group and he begins to wax great with his understanding of the dark sentences given to him (which implies that he is receiving guidance from another entity [hasatan] that is far superior to him).

From there, the little horn will go through a number of transformations (documented in scripture by the various names for this horn) until he becomes the one we anticipate as The anti-messiah or the beast of Revelation 13.  For details about the various transformations please read the article “Other Names of the Anti-Messiah (Anti-Christ)”and “Understanding the Prophetic Beasts”.

This graphic will also help visualize the progression of the little horn to the Revelation 13 beast from the sea.

In the end, the little horn receives its ‘reward’ as said in Daniel 8:25 “but he shall be broken without hand.” That is describing the capture of the beast that will then be cast into the lake of fire with the false prophet.

A time of blessing for YHVH’s people in the midst of end time prophecies.

Even though this letter focuses on the evil aspects of prophecy, within that same time period will be a great blessing for YHVH’s people.  Ezekiel 39:25-29 tells us three aspects of that blessing: we come to KNOW YHVH; the exile ends and we can return to The Land; the Ruach haQodesh (Holy Spirit) is poured out upon His people.  This is telling us that we will have a seven year period of time of spiritual empowerment to become strengthened and filled with resolve as His people so we confidently face the events to come after the seven years of relative plenty. What comes next?  As per the example of Joseph, there will be seven years of famine of the hearing of the words of Adonai (Amos 8:11), followed by the 3 ½ years of tribulation and then Yeshua’s return. 

When will all this happen?  As mentioned at the start of this letter, there are two speculations developed using the clues from scripture.  Speculation Two (Fall of 2023) helped us watch for the trigger that will eventually lead to the Magog invasion but it is Speculation One (Fall of 2027) that will most likely give us the dates when we can anticipate Magog’s invasion plus the seven years of plenty followed by the seven years of famine.  Speculation One has been calculated for events about Magog to unfold in the Fall of 2027. So, this means that the prophecies outlined in this letter for Daniel 8 through to Ezekiel 38 and 39 may well transpire sometime between now and the Fall of 2027.

There are numerous articles on the Elohim’s Perspective website that relate to this subject. Most of them deal with explaining how the dates mentioned within the timeline have been determined.  Please read them to get a fuller understanding of how Elohim’s plan for mankind is set to unfold before us.  The timeline of end time events has been established to help put all this together in an easier visual format.   He wants us to know this stuff so we can be prepared as His people.  Elohim’s plan for mankind is becoming much more clearly defined as world events help to unlock prophecies. As we come to know Their plan for us, we will be able to answer the Messiah in the affirmative when He asks if there are any faithful. 

Again, just to reiterate, until prophecy manifests, we can only speculate.  This letter is to provide a perspective what may very well happen between now and 2027 – and beyond.

Let this mind be in you that is in Messiah, Yeshua. 

Susan

Elohim’s Perspective